Been dealing with rad stuff ourselves this morning, no casualties are expected.

Totally busy this morning. We made an infrequent entry into our outer “hot cell” here, so dose and lots of contamination to deal with. I had it easy as the “outside man”; handing stuff in, surveying stuff out, and documenting all the survey into. Still have to write the job up.

But Nate asked for comment on this article about the fatalistic FukuFifty fellows. I can take a quick break for a post. For starters, luuuuv that nice “journalistic” title:

Japan’s Nuclear Rescuers: ‘Inevitable Some of Them May Die Within Weeks’

Normally the words “inevitable” and “may” don’t belong together. “It’s inevitable that may follows april” might work, but otherwise…no.

Workers at the disaster-stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan say they expect to die from radiation sickness…

Nate, the last I’ve heard everyone is still at that 250mSV (25 rem) emergency dose limit. The only way to die from that dose is to voodoo yourself into it. An acute lethal dose needs to be about 16 times that to kill 50% of the exposed within thirty days. There is absolutely no evidence that anyone can die from a 25 mSv acute dose, much less one that’s been spread out over a few weeks.

We’ll assume an increased risk of cancer, of course. But given the small population size and a 25 rem dose, we probably wouldn’t even see a statistical increase in the FukuFifty’s cancer rate.

A worker’s mother said,

“They know it is impossible for them not to have been exposed to lethal doses of radiation.”

This is one of those rare occasions when I’m glad people can utterly convince themselves of falsehood. If they’re wearing TLDs and TEPCO is reading the TLDs regularly and holding them to 250mSv, it is not possible for them to have been exposed to lethal doses.

Obviously if TEPCO is dosing them up into the hundred of rems (multiple Sieverts) then their concerns grow increasingly valid. But as long as they’re wearing TLDs and TEPCO holds that 250mSv limit, no short-term radiation-related deaths will occur. Period.

Hey, remember the beta-burned guys who turned out not to be beta-burned? They’re beta-burned again:

Although two suffered radiation burns to their legs and ankles and absorbed radiation internally…

Can you guess what other mistake the “reporter” made? If you’re a regular reader here, it better not be a guess.

According to Kaieda, not all of the workers had apparently been provided with lead sheeting to shield themselves from potentially radiation-contaminated floors while sleeping.

Okay, now I know they’re just effing with us. Even when they string the letters “contamin…” together they can’t leave out the word “radiation”. It’s a sickness.


Let’s get that meme started. And it’s twue, it’s twue!

Meanwhile, bad weather has delayed TEPCO’s plans to limit the spread of radiation from the plant. It has intended to spray a water-soluble resin to affix radioactive particles and substances…

Hey, didn’t somebody call for fixative carpet-bombing back on the 16th? I’m not exactly sure why you’d want it to be water-soluble, though.

Growing pools of dangerously radioactive water and deposits of plutonium have been inhibiting access to important parts of the plant.

Really? Deposits of plutonium so bad they’re preventing access? Gotta throw the “b.s. flag” on that one too.

Thanks for this link, nate. This is a poster child for modern journalism.

Which I truly hate.

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9 Responses to Been dealing with rad stuff ourselves this morning, no casualties are expected.

  1. MikeW says:


    I sure hope they know THE ONLY CURE IS MORE COWBELL!

    • oldHP says:

      I’ve been seeking research documents showing the sort of accident scenario which happened here. No luck so far. Finding station blackouts, but always associated with a ATWS or a LOCA. Nothing about a normal scram followed by diesel failure after an hour of core cooling normally followed by battery power being used up 8 to 12 hours later.

      Don’t know when then injected the boron from the SLCS either.

      Its possible that between hours ~12 thru (something) when they might have been improvising, the operators did not care about their dose. But I don’t recall when the first blowdown of airborne contamination to the secondary containment first occurred. I don’t see how exposure to direct gamma or even neutron levels could amount to a “deadly” amount.

      • oldHP says:

        Edit for clarity:

        an hour of core cooling in the normal manner;
        followed by core cooling using battery power, with the batteries being used up 8 to 12 hours later.

  2. Nate says:

    @oldHP:I’m not sure they would have intiated SLC. I believe SLC are just little positive displacement pumps and they’re problem initially anyway was loss of ultimate heat sink, not much a PD pump can do for you.

    @WORMME: Thanks. I do thermal-hydraulics mostly, and don’t know rad protection but that article just floored me.

  3. If I may quote myself: “Goddammit Goddammit Goddammit.”

    Luckily I’m writing a piece for Daily Caller tonight on the need for the media to develop more gokoro.

  4. DefendUSA says:

    Guys…help a sister out…the acronyms, dudes! I can’t learn if you don’t ‘splain it!
    Also, I would love to take a reprint of the article you destroy with facts and this write up attached- copy it like a brochure and leave it around my “broadcast” station here in Ann Arbor for the weekend. I am sure I would be followed by the Peaceniks et al and burned at the stake because I *still* support nuclear power.

    • wormme says:


      I do apologize for the lingo-slingin’. PLEASE ask for explanations for anything here that interests you. Even if it’s multiple paragraphs or the entire piece.

      I’m confident, arrogant even, that I can take apart even these most complex concerns and make them accessible to a questing mind.

      Try me.

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